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Post by Montezuma on Jan 21, 2024 17:40:28 GMT -5
A video by a lion fantansy who is trying to debunck micheal.
Personally, i can, with no problem, falsify all claims soon over here. You guys give your revision to it.
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Post by Gorilla king on Jan 21, 2024 19:45:49 GMT -5
A video by a lion fantansy who is trying to debunck micheal. Personally, i can, with no problem, falsify all claims soon over here. You guys give your revision to it. Oh my god, that was the funniest thing i have ever saw! So a 76 year old man, a well respected professor and historian is a "bear fanatic" and he made a whole book with lyes about this, holy shit, ha ha ha ha. All i see is just some crying. This video has my highlighted screen shots from the book also, looks like someone is hurt and crying, lmfao, probably one those lion loving fags from WAW, i bet you that. By the way, Jiren posted a whole bunch of links of how Pastoureau studied Roman history:
Reply #75:
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/5148/thread
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Post by Montezuma on Jan 22, 2024 14:38:58 GMT -5
Ok, let me give a fuck to this video.
First of all, he tries to deteriorate Micheal's significance by referring him as a bear fantasy even though he is a well respected french mediaeval historian. He quotes Charles Haywood saying, "Micheal exaggerated some claims" actually pointed out to the cultural history of the bear, not the arena fights, and since history of cultures and religion is complex it can be a bit difficult to compile it hundred percent accurately. Anyways, it's the bear's symbolism is what Charles said, not fight events, however Charles isn't a historian though. Furthermore, Micheal is used as an authority in references, so he isn't an average writer.
Next he moves to bear and lion in representation in European culture. He says that the lion is the oldest symbol of Europe as evident by the 40,000 years old "lion man" artifact. Well, that faggot totally misses to see this study showing that the so-called lion man is a brown bear!
www.world-archaeology.com/features/the-bear-necessities/
Furthermore, there is abundant evident of bear-worship in pre historic Europe but no lion worship found yet. Is there any solid proof of lion worship in Europe far prior happening to bear cult in prehistoric times when both lions and bears roamed Europe? Nah. And that pussy forgets to mention it.
What's preposterous is that he says about bears not being recognized in Europe as king of beasts. Gaulic, Teutonic, Nordic and Slavonic areas held the bear as the most powerful animal in Europe. Greeks revered bears very much in myths and Romans held them as symbols of strength.
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/thread/182/brown-bear-importance-european-cultures
Then he says that bears weren't revered in Egypt and mesopotamia as we're lion. That stupid bitch does not know that there were no bears in Egypt and in mesopotamia there were very scarce to get throughly recognition. Despite of that, in Egypt and Iraq, bears were thought to be equivalent to lions. In later Christianity even, bears in ferocity and strength were thought to be a lion like creatures. Saint Jerome tells no animal in wild is fiercer than a mama bear.
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/thread/175/syrian-brown-importance-eastern-cultures
That faggot has no idea of bears in cultural representation. One more thing I want to clarify is that having more representation in myths does not make an animal as supreme in wild. If this ion fantasy logic gets application then 'coyotes are dominant over bears, wolves, and cougars' since they are the most prominent and enigmatic animal in indigenous californian myths. Stop saying shit.
Then he moves and says that lions weren't beat by bears in arenas. As far as we can see, there seems no historically authentic authority of person or script telling lions dominating bear in roman fights; and we got so far only micheal as trustworthy for his modern information and professional work. Interestingly, he isn't alone. Wayne Lynch, a bear biologist says the same:
What know shit-eaters? Enough?
Moreover, that motherfucker later tries to prove that bull beat bears in Rome which is conspicuously ridiculous. Despite abound proof of bears kicking bull ass in Mexican and californian pit fights, these shitty brains don't try to apprehend even and most clear and simplest truth. How funny? That needs no proof.
So, in a succinct criticism, the video is, from A to Z, is a crock of shit. Honestly, was very easy to debunck.
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Post by Montezuma on Jan 27, 2024 15:24:51 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Jan 30, 2024 12:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Jan 31, 2024 3:13:50 GMT -5
So this guy really believes he's able to dispute someone with more credentials than him because he got butthurt for something he can't accept? Laughing out loud.
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Apr 20, 2024 22:37:10 GMT -5
Hey guys. I think I may have debunked that account of the lion killing a polar bear and two tibet bears.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Apr 21, 2024 1:20:41 GMT -5
Hey guys. I think I may have debunked that account of the lion killing a polar bear and two tibet bears. What is your source for that? Care to post it here. Not that I don't believe you but if it is anything concerning the polar bear, I am interested to know. Anyway, you and I know that captive polar bears are much weaker (being smaller on average) although some from 800 to above 1000 pounds do exist and have more fatty adipose tissue than their wild counterparts.
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Post by Jiren on Apr 21, 2024 6:14:02 GMT -5
Hey guys. I think I may have debunked that account of the lion killing a polar bear and two tibet bears. What is your source for that? Care to post it here. Not that I don't believe you but if it is anything concerning the polar bear, I am interested to know. Anyway, you and I know that captive polar bears are much weaker (being smaller on average) although some from 800 to above 1000 pounds do exist and have more fatty adipose tissue than their wild counterparts. It’s a fake story written By Carolyn Cross. It’s about the 7 ages of a woman’s love. It just happens to mentions animals at some point. I always knew this account sounded dumb and fake. This same “account” also mentions the lion struggling against a lioness and getting badly injured. It has 7 paragraphs (bad quality) , ibb.co/3FpBkNmIt has 7 paragraphs. It inlines with the title of “seven ages of woman’s love” fictional story written by Carolyn Cross books.google.com/books?id=W0deAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA36&dq=two+tibet+bears,+but+a+tiger+in+the+back&article_id=3315,1303405&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi46c3ardKFAxV8kIkEHVe_CugQ6AF6BAgNEAM#v=onepage&q=two%20tibet%20bears%2C%20but%20a%20tiger%20in%20the%20back&f=false
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Post by Gorilla king on Apr 21, 2024 7:27:24 GMT -5
Reply #168:
Unfortunately no, as you can see at the bottom, these are two different articles, they are separated by a line. the 7 ages of a woman’s love is at the left, and at the right where the account is, its an article by an animal trainer called Bobby Mack.
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Apr 21, 2024 8:55:19 GMT -5
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Post by Jiren on Apr 21, 2024 8:56:41 GMT -5
Reply #168:
Unfortunately no, as you can see at the bottom, these are two different articles, they are separated by a line. the 7 ages of a woman’s love is at the left, and at the right where the account is, its an article by an animal trainer called Bobby Mack.
I see. Still don’t think it’s real. Because of some of the stuff it says. And the quote don’t help.
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Post by Gorilla king on Apr 21, 2024 9:53:48 GMT -5
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Apr 21, 2024 10:11:58 GMT -5
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Apr 21, 2024 10:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Apr 21, 2024 11:16:08 GMT -5
Damm, shit, here you are absolutely correct bro, very nice catch. Sometimes you just dont notice these kind of details in some accounts, you just mostly go by the title of "lion kills bear". So no fight at all, the sloth bear died by accident. Nice.
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Post by arctozilla on Apr 21, 2024 11:25:24 GMT -5
How did the sloth bear died by accident?
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Post by arctozilla on Apr 21, 2024 11:26:33 GMT -5
Also Jiren please I ask you the suggestion to cooperate more and if you have an account that you refuted post it in Bears killing lions analyses of Domain of Bears.
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Post by Gorilla king on Apr 21, 2024 11:44:03 GMT -5
How did the sloth bear died by accident? "Sad for poor Sampo, someone dallied with the rope blinding the slide, and Bully in a playful mood pushed it back and attempted a cordial handshake. It resulted in Sampo's left breast being torn open."
Sounds like the sliding partition just fell on Sampo (the sloth bear) and that's how it died.
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Apr 21, 2024 11:46:31 GMT -5
Also Jiren please I ask you the suggestion to cooperate more and if you have an account that you refuted post it in Bears killing lions analyses of Domain of Bears. Oh yeah I will. I need to get back in debating.
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