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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 16, 2021 7:30:59 GMT -5
I just looked at some gorilla vs X videos (all of which are terrible) but the gorilla seems to be very underrated in the comments, with people saying that the lion would win "easily" or that a tiger would kill the gorilla (adult male) as soon as he gets close. I personally favour felines over anthropoids because of the vulnerable skin and the cat's claws, but I have to admit that kind of fight is not gonna be free for a lion nor a tiger at weight parity if there isn't ambush included. There are some terrible gorilla fans there but African Boy already proved to me they're tiger fans in disguise. Weird people... Anyhow, I personally favour the tiger but the gorilla is going to put a good fight if not a tough one if the gorilla is bigger.
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 21, 2021 23:14:59 GMT -5
The most underrated animal in the history of animal vs animal debates, by far. Most people just dont have a clue though.
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Post by arctozilla on Aug 26, 2021 13:46:00 GMT -5
I just looked at some gorilla vs X videos (all of which are terrible) but the gorilla seems to be very underrated in the comments, with people saying that the lion would win "easily" or that a tiger would kill the gorilla (adult male) as soon as he gets close. I personally favour felines over anthropoids because of the vulnerable skin and the cat's claws, but I have to admit that kind of fight is not gonna be free for a lion nor a tiger at weight parity if there isn't ambush included. There are some terrible gorilla fans there but African Boy already proved to me they're tiger fans in disguise. Weird people... Anyhow, I personally favour the tiger but the gorilla is going to put a good fight if not a tough one if the gorilla is bigger. I must admit that. Gorillas are overrated in some parts (such as being said to be 20 times as stronger as man, lifting 2 tons and killing anything in one punch) and in sime underrated (such as being said to not have chance against leopards). They're both overrated and underrated.
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 26, 2021 14:11:47 GMT -5
I just looked at some gorilla vs X videos (all of which are terrible) but the gorilla seems to be very underrated in the comments, with people saying that the lion would win "easily" or that a tiger would kill the gorilla (adult male) as soon as he gets close. I personally favour felines over anthropoids because of the vulnerable skin and the cat's claws, but I have to admit that kind of fight is not gonna be free for a lion nor a tiger at weight parity if there isn't ambush included. There are some terrible gorilla fans there but African Boy already proved to me they're tiger fans in disguise. Weird people... Anyhow, I personally favour the tiger but the gorilla is going to put a good fight if not a tough one if the gorilla is bigger. I must admit that. Gorillas are overrated in some parts (such as being said to be 20 times as stronger as man, lifting 2 tons and killing anything in one punch) and in sime underrated (such as being said to not have chance against leopards). They're both overrated and underrated. Only Youtube kids state that about gorillas, not serious forum posters. In general, the gorilla is the most underrated animal by far.
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Post by Montezuma on Oct 6, 2021 5:08:43 GMT -5
Gorilla's fighting abilities and bear's brave is underrated.
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Post by arctozilla on Oct 19, 2021 10:57:45 GMT -5
Gorilla's fighting abilities and bear's brave is underrated. Bear also has an underrated intelligence.
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Post by Jiren on Dec 28, 2021 12:32:59 GMT -5
Wait a second??? Wasn't shadow the same guy who helped debunk “Ocharik killing Chlamid” account??? Did he turned to the dark side now? He did debunk it, but you have to remember that i helped debunked it before him by emailing Ivan Seryodkin. Anyhow, haven't you seen his posts at the Domain? You didn't see our debate? the problem is that he absolutely hates gorillas and favours leopards over them, this means pussykid is on my black list, i dont care what he debunked, i cant stand that idiot.Completely unrelated but Shadow’s YouTube name was ‘J P’ and I debated him about lion vs tiger, all he did was deny and send as hominem attacks, lost huge respects for him after that debate, showed the ‘true colors’ of this Shadow.
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Post by Gorilla king on Dec 28, 2021 13:41:55 GMT -5
He did debunk it, but you have to remember that i helped debunked it before him by emailing Ivan Seryodkin. Anyhow, haven't you seen his posts at the Domain? You didn't see our debate? the problem is that he absolutely hates gorillas and favours leopards over them, this means pussykid is on my black list, i dont care what he debunked, i cant stand that idiot. Completely unrelated but Shadow’s YouTube name was ‘J P’ and I debated him about lion vs tiger, all he did was deny and send as hominem attacks, lost huge respects for him after that debate, showed the ‘true colors’ of this Shadow. Yeah, "JP" , Kid plays nice at forums, but in reality he is a snake.
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Post by Gorilla king on Dec 28, 2021 20:38:51 GMT -5
Back to topic, i am most likely the biggest known gorilla fan, but i know his limitations, so yeah, just for the reasons i stated at reply #1, the tiger would win more often than not, but never easy, not by a long shot.
Whoever voted for 50%, whoever you are....you have all my respect.
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Post by brobear on Dec 29, 2021 1:58:07 GMT -5
A gorilla could not long survive in the R.F.E. and neither would an Amur tiger do well in gorilla country. How about a silverback Eastern lowland gorilla vs Sumatran tiger?
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Dec 29, 2021 6:31:05 GMT -5
A gorilla could not long survive in the R.F.E. and neither would an Amur tiger do well in gorilla country. How about a silverback Eastern lowland gorilla vs Sumatran tiger? Since I support an Eastern lowland gorilla over a sloth bear in a fight to death, I will support it over a Sumatran tiger for consistencies sake .
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Post by Gorilla king on Dec 29, 2021 7:01:19 GMT -5
A gorilla could not long survive in the R.F.E. and neither would an Amur tiger do well in gorilla country. How about a silverback Eastern lowland gorilla vs Sumatran tiger? Eastern lowland gorilla averages 386 lbs, Sumatran tiger averages 260 lbs. The gorilla is 48% larger. Gorilla wins more often than not.
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Post by arctozilla on Jan 22, 2022 6:33:07 GMT -5
Completely unrelated but Shadow’s YouTube name was ‘J P’ and I debated him about lion vs tiger, all he did was deny and send as hominem attacks, lost huge respects for him after that debate, showed the ‘true colors’ of this Shadow. Wait a second, so shadow is J P??? I actually met him on YouTube before, he favors leopards over gorillas and thinks apes are completely worthless, he's the one who conviced me that gorillas lose to leopards but only because I belived he was a rational guy before finding out he's a shit. Shadow fooled me in believing gorillas are weaklings.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 23, 2022 22:16:38 GMT -5
Completely unrelated but Shadow’s YouTube name was ‘J P’ and I debated him about lion vs tiger, all he did was deny and send as hominem attacks, lost huge respects for him after that debate, showed the ‘true colors’ of this Shadow. Wait a second, so shadow is J P??? I actually met him on YouTube before, he favors leopards over gorillas and thinks apes are completely worthless, he's the one who conviced me that gorillas lose to leopards but only because I belived he was a rational guy before finding out he's a shit. Shadow fooled me in believing gorillas are weaklings. Yes that’s him.
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Post by brobear on Jan 24, 2022 3:01:17 GMT -5
Silverback gorilla vs Amur tiger - Why Amur tiger? Even if all living animals lived on one vast landmass, the gorilla would be living in the tropics while the Amur tiger would be living in the taiga. Also, the Amur tiger has too great a size advantage in this face-off for a reasonable debate. South Chinese tiger - 152 kg or 335 pounds... this face-off can be reasonably debated. Or...all male tiger subspecies average weight: Javan tiger - 110 kg or 242 pounds. Sumatran tiger - 118 kg or 260 pounds. Malayan tiger - 120.6 kg or 266 pounds. South Chinese tiger - 152 kg or 335 pounds. Indochinese tiger - 191 kg or 421 pounds. Caspian tiger - 197 kg or 434 pounds. Bengal tiger - 200 kg or 441 pounds. Amur tiger - 200 kg or 441 pounds. *Average male tiger - 355 pounds. *Average male lion - 385 pounds.
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Post by brobear on Jan 17, 2023 5:58:25 GMT -5
Credits to 'Taker: I took the average measurements for the Bengal tiger (shoulder height of ~100cm) and the biggest gorilla ever recorded to date (~195cm or 6.47ft tall) for this one.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 31, 2023 20:19:44 GMT -5
Silverback gorilla vs Amur tiger - Why Amur tiger? Even if all living animals lived on one vast landmass, the gorilla would be living in the tropics while the Amur tiger would be living in the taiga. Also, the Amur tiger has too great a size advantage in this face-off for a reasonable debate. South Chinese tiger - 152 kg or 335 pounds... this face-off can be reasonably debated. Or...all male tiger subspecies average weight: Javan tiger - 110 kg or 242 pounds. Sumatran tiger - 118 kg or 260 pounds. Malayan tiger - 120.6 kg or 266 pounds. South Chinese tiger - 152 kg or 335 pounds. Indochinese tiger - 191 kg or 421 pounds. Caspian tiger - 197 kg or 434 pounds. Bengal tiger - 200 kg or 441 pounds. Amur tiger - 200 kg or 441 pounds. *Average male tiger - 355 pounds. *Average male lion - 385 pounds. I think all tigers could take it honestly (maybe not Javan). The gorillas skin is sensitive.
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Post by Gorilla king on Jan 31, 2023 21:19:37 GMT -5
Silverback gorilla vs Amur tiger - Why Amur tiger? Even if all living animals lived on one vast landmass, the gorilla would be living in the tropics while the Amur tiger would be living in the taiga. Also, the Amur tiger has too great a size advantage in this face-off for a reasonable debate. South Chinese tiger - 152 kg or 335 pounds... this face-off can be reasonably debated. Or...all male tiger subspecies average weight: Javan tiger - 110 kg or 242 pounds. Sumatran tiger - 118 kg or 260 pounds. Malayan tiger - 120.6 kg or 266 pounds. South Chinese tiger - 152 kg or 335 pounds. Indochinese tiger - 191 kg or 421 pounds. Caspian tiger - 197 kg or 434 pounds. Bengal tiger - 200 kg or 441 pounds. Amur tiger - 200 kg or 441 pounds. *Average male tiger - 355 pounds. *Average male lion - 385 pounds. I think all tigers could take it honestly (maybe not Javan). The gorillas skin is sensitive. Not really, Javan would get burned, Sumatran would get burned, Malayan would get burned, and South Chinese would get burned. The gorilla has a weight advantage over all these populations of tigers. The gorilla's skin might be sensitive but it has an arm span that averages 8 feet (2.4 meters) to compensate for that, good luck getting to a vital spot with that in a face to face fight. Another advantage gorillas have is of course, being plantigrade, just like bears:
"In contrast to most other primates, great apes have feet in which the heel supports body weight during standing, walking and running. One possible advantage of this plantigrade foot posture is that it may enhance fighting performance by increasing the ability to apply free moments (i.e. force couples) to the ground."
"As predicted, performance in maximal effort lateral striking and pushing was strongly correlated with free moment magnitude."
Reply #8:
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/98/thread
also, great apes have adapted for strength, unlike big cats who have adapted for speed:
Reply #31
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/577/thread
RELATIVE TO THEIR SIZE THE HIGHER APES, ESPECIALLY THE GORILLAS, HAVE THE BROADEST, MOST MASSIVE PELVIC SKELETON OF ALL ANIMALS:
Reply #39:
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/592/thread
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Post by brobear on Feb 26, 2023 3:43:05 GMT -5
The problem that we nave with the gorilla, concerning these face-off debates, is the fact that he has no natural predators. Only juvenile gorillas and the occasional female is taken by a leopard. Therefore, we have no reliable information on just how a bull gorilla defends himself. Personally, I consider the jaguar and perhaps the Sumatran tiger as (maybe) a 50/50 contest for a silverback gorilla. It's all speculation.
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 26, 2023 6:47:08 GMT -5
The problem that we nave with the gorilla, concerning these face-off debates, is the fact that he has no natural predators. Only juvenile gorillas and the occasional female is taken by a leopard. Therefore, we have no reliable information on just how a bull gorilla defends himself. Personally, I consider the jaguar and perhaps the Sumatran tiger as (maybe) a 50/50 contest for a silverback gorilla. It's all speculation. Since we have no reliable information on how the bull gorilla defends himself, then we go by morphological advantages/disadvantages, those tell me the bull gorilla would make both the jaguar and the Sumatran tiger eat the dirt.
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