Very interesting quotes from old hunters/zoologists

[Gorilla king]

“THE GORILLA IS THE PRIZE-FIGHTER OF AFRICA”

”CONTESTS OF ALL WILD ANIMALS PALE IN COMPARISON WITH THAT IN WHICH ONE MUST ENGAGE IN MEETING THE GORILLA”

“THE GORILLA IS AS BRAVE AS BRAVE CAN BE”
THE MALE GORILLA DOES ALL THE FIGHTING FOR THE FAMILY”

“IF YOU APPROACH A FEMALE GORILLA, SHE WILL RUN THROUGH THE WOODS SCREAMING, BUT THE MALE GORILLA
WILL COME STRAIGHT AT YOU”

”HE WILL FIGHT ANY NUMBER OF MEN”

”THE GORILLA IS SO FIERCE AND POWERFUL THAT YOU HAVE BUT ONE CHANCE AT HIM AT THE BEST”





trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66852355?searchTerm=Leopard%20dies%20in%20fight%20with%20gorilla&searchLimits=

[Gorilla king]

This is from Captain Benjamin Burbridge, American hunter and explorer.

"The gorilla is the most interesting of the jungle inhabitants"

"The gorilla pits its strength in its huge arms and body against the vicious teeth and claws of the lion and leopard and most often than not triumphs over his jungle foes."

"He kills to protect his young, though while his adversaries kill him for food, the explorer said that when the two meet, the battle is described by Captain Burbridge as short and decisive, the gorilla either tearing the lion or leopard limb from limb with his terrible strength or his adversary sinking his teeth onto the gorilla's jugular vein."

[Gorilla king]

ACCORDING TO OLD HUNTERS, THE GORILLA IS THE REAL KING OF THE BEASTS.

[Gorilla king]

Account told by Attilio Gatti, Italian-born explorer, author, and documentary filmmaker who traveled extensively in Africa in the first half of the 20th century:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attilio_Gatti

One of the pygmies imitated the cry of a leopard, which always infuriates the gorillas. The youngster and the females immediately raced to the branches of a tree, while the huge male, which the natives called "king of the gorillas", howled with fury. When the leopard cry was repeated, the big fellow, wild with hate, snapped the trunk of a tree in two with a crackling sound like a cannon shot. Brandishing this formidable weapon, he advanced a few steps, emitting a howl of a very different character. It must have been an order, for the females and the young ones promptly dropped down from the trees and trotted away towards the bushes. As soon as they had disappeared the gorilla, in a last burst of rage, siezed the trunk of a tree with his fingers, tore it to pieces as though it were a stalk of soft sugar-cane, and threw it far away. Then, dropping down on all fours, he walked slowly and majestically away, as though to say "here i am, you can do nothing to harm my family"





trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/260196493?searchTerm=The%20gorilla%20kills%20the%20leopard

[Gorilla king]

"The gorilla is a very powerful creature, in fact, a full-sized father gorilla would be more than a match for 10 men in physical strength"

"A man hunting in the jungle would rather face a lion or a rhinoceros than an angry gorilla"

"This creature can seize a leopard, maul it to death, and toss it aside just as if it were a kitten"

"The father gorilla makes a bed of branches at a foot of a tree. From this it is always ready to drive off leopards or other enemies when they try to attack the babies who live "upstairs"





paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19370407.2.206.7?items_per_page=10&query=Gorilla+&snippet=true

[Gorilla king]

ALFRED BREHM-NATURAL HISTORIAN AND DIRECTOR OF THE HAMBURG ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS:

"UNARMED MAN, THE LEOPARD AND THE CROCODILE ARE NO MATCH FOR THIS FORMIDABLE CREATURE, BEFORE WHICH EVEN THE LION MIGHT TREMBLE"





books.google.fr/books?id=cJT7OMAOOXQC&pg=PA40&dq=a+leopard+is+no+match+for+a+gorilla&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&redir_esc=y

[Gorilla king]

CLYDE BEATTY, FAMOUS ANIMAL TRAINER:

"A GORILLA COULD WHIP A LION"




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[tyrannosaurs]

Btw, I think I remember an article of a lion vs gorilla fight where both died, but haven't saved it. Eastern African lions crossed paths with gorillas before they were over hunted. However, quite logically, I would say a gorilla can whip a lion.

[Gorilla king]

Jul 6, 2021 21:00:25 GMT -5 tyrannosaurs said:

Btw, I think I remember an article of a lion vs gorilla fight where both died, but haven't saved it. Eastern African lions crossed paths with gorillas before they were over hunted. However, quite logically, I would say a gorilla can whip a lion.

Here is the account:


APPARENTLY, BACK IN THE 19TH CENTURY, IN CENTRAL AFRICA, GORILLAS AND LIONS COEXISTED. NOW LIONS IN CENTRAL AFRICA ARE RESTRICTED TO FRAGMENTED AND ISOLATED POPULATIONS, SO THEY DONT COEXIST ANYMORE. HERE IS THE FIRST DOCUMENTED ACCOUNT OF A FIGHT BETWEEN A LION AND A GORILLA, THEY KILLED EACH OTHER.





paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/TT18900226.2.13

[tyrannosaurs]

Thank you. I learnt my lesson and now I am going to save it.

[Gorilla king]

So you think a gorilla can whip a lion? Wow, not many people think that, if you go to any other forum and you say that, they would literally kill you, most posters think a gorilla is just a helpless ape that gets killed by leopards. They are dead wrong. If you read this thread from the start, you will see what the old hunters/naturalists/researchers thought, that the gorilla is the real king of the beasts, and that leopards stand no chance. Hell, they even think a lion is no match (i think they went a little too far there) but that's what they thought. I think gorilla vs lion is debatible, but any feline below that is not, a lioness, a jaguar, a leopard, they would all get wrecked by the historic animal.

[tyrannosaurs]

Opps... Meant couldn't!

[tyrannosaurs]

Going further. Indeed, gorillas are no helpless against leopards. They definitely would be able to kill one or two leopards. Most of the records I saw were all ambushes.

[Gorilla king]

Jul 6, 2021 21:46:17 GMT -5 tyrannosaurs said:

Going further. Indeed, gorillas are no helpless against leopards. They definitely would be able to kill one or two leopards. Most of the records I saw were all ambushes.

Yeah, ambushes and sleeping gorillas.

[Gorilla king]

THE AMERICAN JOURNAL OF SCIENCE (1862)

Subject: Botany -- Georgia -- Connasarga River, Science -- Periodicals


"THE ADULT MALE GORILLA HAS NO SENSE OF FEAR, HE RUNS FROM NO ENEMY, AND IS NOT THE AGGRESSOR, USUALLY, IN AN ENCOUNTER."






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[oldindigosilverback]

A silverback gorilla is not a troop leader for nothing.

[Gorilla king]

JOURNAL OF MAMMALOGY
VOLUME 2
1921

ON THE GORILLA AND THE CHIMPANZEE

"THE AUTHORS HAVE, IN SOME CASES, BELITTLED THE GALLANT COURAGE OF THE GORILLA AND PICTURED THE CHIMPANZEE AS A BRAVE BEAST. I WISH TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF SEVERAL INSTANCES WHEN THE GORILLA PROVED HIMSELF THE GALLANT AND TO EXPRESS MY OPINION THAT THE CHIMPANZEE IS A COWARD, AS COMPARED WITH THE LARGER APE. THESE ARE BASED ON OVER TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE IN HUNTING THESE ANIMALS"

CONTRARY TO THE OPINIONS OF MANY, THE GORILLA IS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, JUST AS INTELLIGENT AS THE CHIMPANZEE.

A CHIMPANZEE ALWAYS MAKES OFF AT THE FIRST SIGN OF DANGER, BUT ONE NEVER KNOWS WHEN THE GORILLA MAY ATTACK

I WAS A WITNESS TO SEVERAL INSTANCES WHEN GORILLAS REFUSED TO DESERT THEIR FALLED COMRADES.








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[arctozilla]

Gorilla beats any cat (except lion and tiger).

[Gorilla king]

BOOK, THE YEAR OF THE GORILLA, BY BIOLOGIST AND CONSERVATIONIST GEORGE SCHALLER:



"And i have never watched a more completely placid and relaxed animal than the gorilla. What does the gorilla have to fear?  What animal would dare attack a gorilla, except man and very rarely the leopard? The gorilla's every action testifies to the fact that it feels itself the undisputed ruler of its mountain domain. It will flee from that which is new and strange and it will defend itself when threatened, but it never seems apprehensive about anything. Even such large and powerful creatures, as the black buffalo were treated somewhat condescendingly"








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[Gorilla king]

"EVEN A LION WOULD NOT DARE TO PROVOKE A ROW WITH SUCH A MIGHTY CREATURE,  AND INDEED THE GORILLA HAS NO NATURAL ENEMIES"





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