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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:06:33 GMT -5
HERE IN THIS THREAD THE VIEWER WILL SEE ALL THE ACCOUNTS FROM BIOLOGISTS AND EXPERTS STATING HOW AMUR TIGERS COMPLETELY AVOID ADULT MALE USSURI BROWN BEARS.
RUSSIAN BIOLOGIST ALEXANDER BATALOV SAYS TIGERS DONT WANT ANY CONFLICT AND SIMPLY TRY TO AVOID LARGE BEARS.
 programmes.putin.kremlin.ru/en/tiger/news/25556
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:13:03 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:28:28 GMT -5
WELL KNOWN BIOLOGIST LINDA KERLEY SAID TIGERS HUNT "UP TO THE LARGEST AND HEALTHIEST ADULT FEMALE BROWN BEARS"
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 26, 2021 9:40:15 GMT -5
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Post by Montezuma on Jul 13, 2021 13:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by arctozilla on Sept 9, 2021 10:35:25 GMT -5
Don't forget about N. A. Baikov. Post Nomber #87 30 November 2008 22:18:15 forum.zoologist.ru/viewtopic.php?id=589&p=4In his book, Baikov stated general rule about bears: "Кроме человека, врагов у медведей почти нет. Только молодые экземпляры подвергаются нападению тигра; кроме того, сильно досаждают им некоторые виды насекомых и внутриполостных червей." "Тигр не решается нападать на бурого медведя, зная его огромную силу и злобность." Here's the translation. "Apart from humans, bears have almost no enemies. Only young specimens are attacked by a tiger; in addition, they are greatly annoyed by some species of insects and endocavitary worms." "The tiger hesitates to attack the brown bear, knowing its enormous strength and viciousness."  credits to @warsaw |
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Sept 19, 2021 1:54:27 GMT -5
Reply to the op: A Chinese and a Russian brown bear fight at the state border.  Male bears always fight for territory. It is unclear who won that fight as the recording ends halfway during the attack. Picture: Amur Tiger Centre There is no sound on the video filmed on 11 May in Jewish Autonomous region, in eastern Siberia, but the brief moment of the attack caught on trail camera suggests that it must have been one rowdy fight. The rivals came one from the Russian side, the other from the Chinese side, to a path liked by endangered Amur tigers. It was a team from the Russian Amur Tiger Centre that set the trail camera to follow the life of the animals that were rescued by them, and reintroduced back to the wild.    Lazovka the rescued Amur tiger is seen crossing from China to Russia close to the site where the two bears fought. Pictures: Amur Tiger Centre ‘ Amur tigers have always walked here in peace and quiet, yet the bears broke everything as soon as they came! 'They also broke photo trails set along other parts of the path - and they didn’t even notice barbed wire!’ the centre’s team said. Male bears always fight for territory. It is unclear who won that fight as the recording ends halfway during the attack. Jewish Autonomous region is home to several reintroduced Amur tigers, rescued by the team of the Amur Tiger Centre. The centre was set up outside Vladivostok to help big cats like endangered Amur leopards and Amur tigers, the world’s biggest cats. The rivals came one from the Russian side, the other from the Chinese side, to a path liked by endangered Amur tigers. Video: Amur Tiger Centre siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/a-chinese-and-a-russian-brown-bear-fight-at-the-state-border/This article seems to confirm the starting post. |
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Post by Gorilla king on Sept 19, 2021 7:06:48 GMT -5
Reply #9:
That is a great point yes. The OP, which is from Batalov, states this:
Tigers try not to have any conflicts with such bears, and prefer to simply avoid them. They compromise, obviously knowing from experience that after a while the bears will calm down and scatter themselves around the area, and then they will again be able to walk along their routes without worrying, updating the visual and fragrant marks on their marking objects so as to be able to communicate with their kind.
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Post by Montezuma on Jan 20, 2022 2:19:05 GMT -5
Credited to Warsaw:"— Но ведь здесь и тигр водится, — сказал я. — Пострашней медведя!Это тигр-то? — оживился Данила. — Тигр берет проворством, а медведь силой. Старый медведь тигра не боится, а тигр обходит медведя, не желает с ним встречаться. Один наш знаменитый охотник, теперь уже покойный, видел, как медведь дрался с тигром. Откудова, говорит, у медведя проворство взялось! По его словам, он на этом месте нашел потом остатки разодранного тигра. Некоторые старые медведи-стервятники ходят по тигровым следам и питаются ихней добычей, значит, они тигра не боятся."In short, the bear is the real master if our forest. He walks through the forest like a "goblin" - hoots and scares other animals. “But there’s a tiger here too,” I said. - More terrible than a bear!Is it a tiger? - Danila perked up. - A tiger always wins with his nimbleness, and a bear with his strength. An old bear isn't afraid of a tiger, but the tiger evades the bear, not wishing to meet him."
ohot-prostory.ru/index.php?id=18
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Post by Montezuma on Apr 20, 2022 20:09:07 GMT -5
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Jun 1, 2022 21:33:12 GMT -5
Reply 2. Does anyone have the email which Pikunov replied to Big Bons? I am unable yo find it but I believe it was posted on this forum sometime ago.
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 2, 2022 6:07:41 GMT -5
Reply 2. Does anyone have the email which Pikunov replied to Big Bons? I am unable yo find it but I believe it was posted on this forum sometime ago. |
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 7, 2022 15:28:48 GMT -5
WCS RUSSIA:
"Thank you for your interest in wild animals. Typically, tigers do not associate with large bears and do not engage in open combat, as the outcome will be unknown. Both the tiger and the bear can win, or both can end up dying from their wounds in the fight."
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Post by brobear on Jun 9, 2022 2:26:26 GMT -5
Quote: WCS RUSSIA:
"Thank you for your interest in wild animals. Typically, tigers do not associate with large bears and do not engage in open combat, as the outcome will be unknown. Both the tiger and the bear can win, or both can end up dying from their wounds in the fight."
*This is true; however the tiger would be killed far more often due to the fact that his greater girth gives him much greater durability. The teeth and claws of the bear will be inflicting much more life-threatening wounds to the tiger. Add to this the brown bear's greater weight, superior strength, superior grappling ability, bipedal abilities, and stamina, and it becomes crystal clear that this is no 50/50 contest.
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Post by Montezuma on Oct 8, 2022 22:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Oct 8, 2022 23:05:35 GMT -5
/\ When it says Himalayan bear, it is talking about the Ussuri black bear. Not a surprise as Ussuri black bears live in the same area as Siberian tigers.
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Post by Montezuma on Dec 10, 2022 13:08:20 GMT -5
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