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Post by Montezuma on May 23, 2024 18:35:50 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on May 24, 2024 8:08:10 GMT -5
Shit, that's very nice bro, i had not seen that. So that bear pic was taken months after that pic with the tiger fattened up, the dates dont add up at all. And i see the tiger fans had no response for that, awesome.
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Post by Montezuma on May 24, 2024 12:54:17 GMT -5
Shit, that's very nice bro, i had not seen that. So that bear pic was taken months after that pic with the tiger fattened up, the dates don't add up at all. And i see the tiger fans had no response for that, awesome. Notice that Warsaw's reply was more than a week ago and still no body contradicted that. Basically, I think this was the last hard strike to Batalov's speculated story which is left with no more validity. Ok, those fanboys can interpret story biased but they cannot alter dates which leads them into total desperation. With Warsaw's last strike, this case is closed as fake forever. |
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Post by Montezuma on May 24, 2024 13:48:32 GMT -5
I just want to confirm that is this posted here or not?
Source:Estimating Amur tiger (Panthera tigris altaica) kill rates and potential consumption rates using global positioning system collars
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Post by Gorilla king on May 24, 2024 14:23:52 GMT -5
Could be posted somewhere, but i cant remember it.
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Jiren
Black bear
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Post by Jiren on May 24, 2024 14:40:01 GMT -5
I was just gonna post this |
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on May 24, 2024 14:42:28 GMT -5
I just want to confirm that is this posted here or not?
Source:Estimating Amur tiger (Panthera tigris altaica) kill rates and potential consumption rates using global positioning system collars Think so cause I’ve seen this before. |
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Post by Jiren on May 26, 2024 13:30:20 GMT -5
There’s also the 20 minute female brown bear/adult male tiger fight. The bear was killed. However, the tiger didn’t get off easily. A tiger, who can’t walk straight, see right, legs too weak, lame to the point that it was crawling on the ground, I’m pretty sure the tiger died after the fight. But I can only speculate. The tiger was dragging itself across the ground. Reading this a year later.. I still think the male tiger died after the fight. We have no proof though |
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Post by Gorilla king on May 27, 2024 13:37:27 GMT -5
JirenThe book "Amba" is fictional yes, now in spite of this, lets not forget that both of Sysoev's accounts were included in TSTP chapter 19, which is a peer reviewed study:Reply #22:
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/33/thread
This would mean that both accounts were researched by these modern biologists/researchers and that's why they were included. This would make me believe both of them, as well as everything else included in TSTP.
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 4, 2024 3:07:17 GMT -5
From the book "K. Abramov Protect the tiger", which was mentioned in the "amur tiger, legends speculations and facts" Page 217. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://amur-tiger.ru/uploads/files/domyslylegendi2_0055694001701075454.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiCmKr64viFAxW2SfEDHRF7DTUQFnoECEUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0bLr41ovbZBj1oKTrwG1K6"An adult tiger has no enemies. Even large brown bears prefer not to meet a tiger. True, very rarely But there are still cases of tiger deaths from bears. More often In general, such cases are observed with young, not fully formed tigers. Small and medium-sized bear is terrified of a tiger and often becomes his prey. When meeting tiger tracks such bears try to get away as quickly as possible. The tiger prefers not to attack large brown bears, since he cannot bite the neck of a large bear. Large brown bears feel quite calm when meeting a tige, and in winter there are even cases pursuit of young tigers and tigers by a large bear broods. In the winter of 1954, a brown bear who had been chased for 1.5 months, killed a young tiger. The bear was killed from an ambush on fresh tiger trail (Trubitsyn). Bear attacks on large tigers are extremely rare. We know of only one case of death of a large tiger from bear. In 1913, a large brown bear walked along the Sinancha River followed a large male tiger. The bear caught up and crushed the tiger and, left without touching (Kalendzyuga)". Are we aware of this paragraph? It is known to us that in 1913 a tiger fell victim to a brown bear but I cannot see we ever mentioned that it was a LARGE tiger as described here. Opinion? |
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 4, 2024 6:34:26 GMT -5
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Jun 4, 2024 20:07:32 GMT -5
Sadly, just like with bears, “large tiger” doesn’t mean adult. But the way they structured it makes me think it’s an adult tiger. They were talking about young tigers. Then, they say they know of a case where a large tiger gets killed. If it was not an adult, maybe they would have not have mentioned it was a large tiger. Idk |
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Post by Jiren on Jun 4, 2024 20:10:23 GMT -5
Kalendzyuga? Is that a person?
Also
“ Large brown bears feel quite calm when meeting a tige, and in winter there are even cases pursuit of young tigers and tigers by a large bear broods. ”
It also mentions how young bears avoid tiger tracks, tigers avoiding large bears, yatayatayata…
Note :
There were 12 cases of brown bears killing tigers (Sysoev, 1950, 1960; Abramov, 1962; Rakov, 1970; Gorokhov, 1973; Kos- toglod, 1981). Six dead tigers were adults, four cubs, two not stated.
There’s 6 cases. 6 dead adult tigers. Could be a clue..
The 1913 is the same as the 1962 BTW.
Also sorry for spam/long post
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 4, 2024 22:55:20 GMT -5
That's true, although it is even more true for bears as bears have alot more weight/size variation. "Large tiger" most likely means adult, and we already know it was a male.
Most likely.
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Jun 6, 2024 6:48:55 GMT -5
The capture of one adult bear with an interval of one year (at the age of 7 and 8 years) made it possible to assess the change in its morphometric parameters during this period, while the condition of the animal during both captures was the same. The bear's body length did not change over the year and amounted to 202 cm; indicators such as weight (from 200 to 220 kg), neck girth (from 71 to 75 cm), chest girth (from 127 to 129 cm) and front palm pad width (from 18.5 to 19 cm) increased. I.V. Seryodkin, J. Paczkowski, V.V. Zhakov, Morphometric parameters of brown bears captured for research in Kamchatka carnivora.net/siberian-tiger-v-ussuri-brown-bear-t8294-s5715.html#p286383Also a 7 to 8 year old male Ussuri brown bear at 200 to 220kg can have a 18.5 to 19 cm palm pad width. Originally posted by VIP Everyday. |
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Post by Montezuma on Jun 7, 2024 15:35:09 GMT -5
That's true, although it is even more true for bears as bears have alot more weight/size variation. "Large tiger" most likely means adult, and we already know it was a male.Most likely. So it means that it was an adult male tiger, not a sub adult male. Right? If that was an adult male so are we having another adult male tiger killed by brown bear apart from those two? |
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 7, 2024 18:42:25 GMT -5
That's true, although it is even more true for bears as bears have alot more weight/size variation. "Large tiger" most likely means adult, and we already know it was a male.Most likely. So it means that it was an adult male tiger, not a sub adult male. Right? If that was an adult male so are we having another adult male tiger killed by brown bear apart from those two? |
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Jun 11, 2024 7:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Jun 11, 2024 19:03:57 GMT -5
It is a possibility that the bear is following the tiger to either displace or scavenge a kill from it.
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Jun 11, 2024 21:10:36 GMT -5
/\ The videos seem to be increasing. I am not surprise if eventually there will ne a fight breakout.
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