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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 10, 2021 10:38:17 GMT -5
Indeed. I also think that they have the strongest bite force at the Molars, because of their width and how massive the jaw is: photos.app.goo.gl/3A1fYjTdLXdxAJn89This is from data I already posted. Do you got any sources on bite force friend?
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 10, 2021 11:05:02 GMT -5
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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 10, 2021 12:54:38 GMT -5
That's great man! Didn't know about it. Will check it out.
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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 10, 2021 12:56:22 GMT -5
I checked it. Its a really good source. I saved it to read more in depth.
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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 10, 2021 13:20:35 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 10, 2021 13:46:08 GMT -5
That's Animal face-off (we already know who won there). "The gorilla's jaw muscles are huge"
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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 10, 2021 13:48:41 GMT -5
Yep, the gorilla. And I agree with the verdict.
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Post by tyrannosaurs on Aug 10, 2021 15:49:28 GMT -5
Relative joint size and hominoid locomotor adaptations with implications for the evolution of hominid bipedalism: Abstract The relationship between relative joint size and locomotor adaptations in living hominoids is examined using a variety of analytical strategies: narrow allometry, a priori geometrical adjustments, and empirical regression (allometric) adjustments. Regardless of method, the observation that emerges conspicuously is that modern humans possess exceptionally large hindlimb and lumbo-sacral joints for their body size. Full-time terrestrial bipedality precludes the sharing of weight support and propulsion with the forelimbs, and this fundamental difference from the other hominoids is reflected in the relative size of human hindlimb joints. Similar analyses including “Lucy” (A.L. 288-1, Australopithecus afarensis) suggest that a modest degree of hindlimb joint enlargement had already taken place at this point in hominid evolution, but that the highly-derived relative joint size characteristic of modern humans had not yet been achieved. This implies that the adaptation to terrestrial bipedalism in early hominids was far from complete and not functionally equivalent to the modern human condition. It is speculated that later enlargement of the hindlimb joints and elongation of the lower extremity represent a major adaptive shift linked to the advent of longer distance travel in human evolution. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0047248488900565Further reading: archive.org/details/primatepostcrani0000unse/page/247/mode/1up
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Post by arctozilla on Sept 2, 2021 5:35:37 GMT -5
Apes are strong creatures. If a human can be already strong for its size then imagine a gorilla.
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Post by Gorilla king on Sept 21, 2021 11:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by tyrannosaurs on Sept 24, 2021 6:52:49 GMT -5
Canine size, shape, and bending strength in primates and carnivores - "The range of primate female canine sizes embraces that of carnivores. Male and female primate canines are generally as strong as or stronger than those of carnivores." "Primate canine dimorphism has been extensively documented, with a consensus that large male primate canines serve as weapons for intrasexual competition, and some evidence that large female canines in some species may likewise function as weapons." pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18186502/
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Post by Gorilla king on Nov 8, 2021 19:32:25 GMT -5
Book: Modern Morphometrics in Physical Anthropology
Pongo has the relatively broadest infraspinous fossa (Schultz, 1930), which Roberts (1974) associated with their quadrumanous climbing behavior. Gorillas, however, have relatively broader infraspinous fossae compared to Pan, which may reflect the former's need for greater shoulder joint stabilization (Roberts, 1974). Finally, among hominoids, gorillas (but also humans) have been shown to have the relatively longer scapular spines (Roberts, 1974). In primates, a well-developed scapular spine and acromion process have been functionally linked to both arm-swinging and vertical climbing behaviors because these features are presumed to improve the mechanical leverage for the TRAPEZIUS AND DELTOID MUSCLES. (Roberts, 1974: Takahashi, 1990).
books.google.com/books?id=YeZvypxa9TwC&pg=PA301&dq=Gorillas+have+been+shown+to+have+the+longest+scapular+spines&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi11_6tgIr0AhUun-AKHYpiC3UQ6AF6BAgMEAM
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Post by Gorilla king on Nov 8, 2021 22:13:04 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Mar 7, 2022 9:40:39 GMT -5
Book: Explorations and Adventures in Equatorial Africa: With Accounts of the Manners and Customs of the People, and of the Chase of the Gorilla, the Crocodile, Leopard, Elephant, Hippopotamus, and Other Animals
Author: Paul Belloni Du Chaillu, French-American traveler, zoologist, and anthropologist. First modern European outsider to confirm the existence of gorillas:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Du_Chaillu "The jaws are of tremendous weight and power. The huge caninens of the male, which are fully exhibited when, in his rage, he draws back his lips, lend additional ferocity to his aspect. In the female these canines are smaller.
"The immense developement of the temporal muscles which arise from this ridge, and the corresponding size of the jaw, are evidences of the great strength of the animal.
books.google.com.ar/books?id=IlIMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA396&dq=Adult+male+gorilla+had+no+fear+of+leopard&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwib8Mnrl7T2AhUOqpUCHUkXDAAQ6AF6BAgMEAM#v=onepage&q=Adult%20male%20gorilla%20had%20no%20fear%20of%20leopard&f=false
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Mar 20, 2022 6:38:57 GMT -5
The gorilla’s neck is also almost absent according to the article above. Animals with an almost absent neck are powerful forces.
The human neck is way more delicate.
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Post by Gorilla king on Mar 20, 2022 7:18:11 GMT -5
The gorilla’s neck is also almost absent according to the article above. Animals with an almost absent neck are powerful forces. The human neck is way more delicate. Yes, that's why leopards sometimes attack gorillas in the groin area so that they can bleed out.
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Post by Gorilla king on Apr 30, 2022 0:06:36 GMT -5
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Apr 30, 2022 4:01:31 GMT -5
The gorilla’s neck is also almost absent according to the article above. Animals with an almost absent neck are powerful forces. The human neck is way more delicate. Yes, that's why leopards sometimes attack gorillas in the groin area so that they can bleed out.That usually happens at night right? And usually huge fully grown silverbacks are avoided. Male gorillas also take 15 years to sexually mature. Leopards sexually mature a lot earlier. Meaning the male gorillas killed are probably not full grown.
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Post by Gorilla king on Apr 30, 2022 5:44:43 GMT -5
That's correct. Male leopards are active at night. Gorillas sleep at night.
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Post by Gorilla king on May 5, 2022 17:02:28 GMT -5
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