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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 22, 2021 21:22:01 GMT -5
Ursus maritimus tyrannus
Ursus maritimus tyrannus (meaning tyrant polar bear) is an extinct subspecies of polar bear, known from a single fragmentary ulna found in the gravels of the Thames at Kew Bridge, London. It was named by the Finnish paleontologist Björn Kurtén in 1964 and is interpreted to represent a relatively large subadult individual: the ulna is estimated to have been 48.5 cm (19 in) long when complete,[1] for comparison, modern subadult polar bear ulnae are 36–43 cm (14–17 in) long.[1]
An unpublished reinvestigation of the fossil suggests that the fossil is actually a brown bear.[2]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursus_maritimus_tyrannus
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 22, 2021 21:35:38 GMT -5
Ursus maritimus tyrannus
Ursus maritimus tyrannus (Ursus maritimus tyrannus Kurtén, 1964)
?Ursus arctos priscus
Order: Carnivora
Family: Ursidae
Size: 3,5 m in length, 145 cm in height, 350 - 1000 kg of weight
Time period: the Late Pleistocene of Northern Eurasia (70,000 years ago)
Typical representative: Ursus maritimus tyrannus Kurtén, 1964
Ursus maritimus tyrannus is an extinct subspecies of polar bear, known from a single fragmentary ulna found in the gravels of the Thames at Kew Bridge, London. It was named by the Finnish paleontologist Björn Kurtén in 1964 and is interpreted to represent a relatively large subadult individual: the ulna is estimated to have been 48.5 cm long when complete, recent studies only weigh it at 400 kg, for comparison modern subadult polar bear ulnae are 36–43 cm long. Dating back to the Late Pleistocene, approximately 70,000 years ago, it is the oldest fossil assigned to the polar bear; however, an unpublished reinvestigation of the fossil suggests that the fossil is actually a brown bear.
Commonly used names include: Pleistocene polar bear or Tyrant polar bear.
prehistoric-fauna.com/Ursus-maritimus-tyrannus
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 22, 2021 22:15:36 GMT -5
Most likely a brown bear according to an unpublished reinvestigation of the fossil. However, nothing new has come up and its still officially a Pleistocene polar bear (Ursus maritimus tyrannus).
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Aug 23, 2021 7:24:58 GMT -5
Some think the tyrant polar bear does not exist and call it a 400 kg brown bear but who knows. If it does exist it would be a brown version of the polar bear. A giant ABC brown bear?
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Post by Gorilla king on Aug 23, 2021 7:48:27 GMT -5
Some think the tyrant polar bear does not exist and call it a 400 kg brown bear but who knows. If it does exist it would be a brown version of the polar bear. A giant ABC brown bear? Yeah, everything is possible. It might had even been the same as the Pleistocene Steppe brown bear (Ursus arctos priscus). Hope we get new info soon.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Jul 14, 2022 5:32:31 GMT -5
How the tyrant polar bear is assumed to be like but I believe it looks more like a browny.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Jul 14, 2022 5:36:23 GMT -5
www.bearsoftheworld.net/early_polar_bears.aspThis shows that the 12 foot tall male polar bear is only an exaggeration since the tyranus can reach 12 ft in length. The tyrant polar bear is also confirmed to look more like a brown bear as it is more Artos like.
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Post by brobear on Jul 14, 2022 13:02:20 GMT -5
www.polarresearch.net/index.php/polar/article/viewFile/6131/6810The Kew Bridge find is special in that it is an ulna of a very large animal, considerably larger than present-day polar bears. Kurtén (1964) assigned it to a polar bear subspecies, Ursus maritimus tyrannus. The Kew Bridge specimen has recently been reinvestigated by scientists at London’s Natural History Museum, and they are now confident that the Kew animal was a type of brown bear, U. arctos (Andy Currant, pers. comm. 2008). *Note; Ursus ? tyrannus was probably a brown bear but still not sure.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Feb 3, 2023 8:00:36 GMT -5
/\ Modern day research often is used to refute old accounts but it does not always mean all old accounts are false. Though in this case most posters believe this bear is actually a brown bear. Neither seems to be wrong as polar bears once came from brown bears and will probably return to brown bears if they meet more than they do right now.
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Post by arctozilla on Apr 14, 2023 7:44:48 GMT -5
From what it seems. The tyrant polar bear was most likely a brown bear.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Apr 17, 2023 5:09:01 GMT -5
From what it seems. The tyrant polar bear was most likely a brown bear. And more adaptable to climate change too. Brown bears being the most widespread bear is what made the polar bear exist.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Jan 15, 2024 6:10:53 GMT -5
This bear is not the only one that seems to be downsized.
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Post by oldindigosilverback on Jan 15, 2024 6:11:54 GMT -5
If this bear really was a 400kg brown bear, it might be the same brown bear from Ireland which is said to be the polar bear's ancestor.
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