Himalayan brown bear

[Gorilla king]

Dec 24, 2021 21:29:30 GMT -5 fluffyfatbear said:

I think these bears coexist with tigers in Bhutan and pradesh north India

In Pradesh, could be, although there are no known interactions. In Bhutan, the Himalayan brown bear is most likely extinct.

[Gorilla king]

Red Book Himalayan Brown Bear Shows Up on Camera in Altyn Emel National Park





astanatimes.com/2022/06/red-book-himalayan-brown-bear-shows-up-on-camera-in-altyn-emel-national-park/

[arctozilla]

There's an article saying that Himalayan brown bears can weigh 400 kg, which is larger than inland grizzly.
www.natureinfocus.in/animals/the-brown-bears-of-kargil

Opinions?

[Gorilla king]

Nov 7, 2023 3:36:32 GMT -5 arctozilla said:

There's an article saying that Himalayan brown bears can weigh 400 kg, which is larger than inland grizzly.
www.natureinfocus.in/animals/the-brown-bears-of-kargil

Opinions?

That should mean "up" to 400 kg, as  max weight. Could be, the problem is we dont have any scientific weights for this subspecies, so we have to go by these non-scientific sites. We have this for example, this subspecies is a contender for the smallest brown bear subspecies, it averages 298 lbs in males, and look at the females head and body length:

The Himalayan brown bear (U. a. isabellinus) is another rival for smallest subspecies, in Pakistan this subtype averages about 70 kg (150 lb) in females and 135 kg (298 lb) in males. Himalayan brown bear females were cited with an average head-and-body length of merely 1.4 m (4 ft 7 in).

www.inaturalist.org/guide_taxa/889098


As for the site you posted, which says up to 400 kg (881 lbs), i mean its possible that there was this 400 kg "freak" specimen that they used for the max weight, that could be. One site doesn't disprove the other because the site you posted just states the "max" weight, while the site i posted just states the "average" weight.

[arctozilla]

I just asked this because one at Bestiary info told me that Himalayan brown bears are larger than inland grizzlies.

[Gorilla king]

Nov 7, 2023 6:56:14 GMT -5 arctozilla said:

I just asked this because one at Bestiary info told me that Himalayan brown bears are larger than inland grizzlies.

Definitely not, lmao.

[oldcyansilverback]

Reply 24. Honestly no.

[Gorilla king]

Interactions between brown bear cubs of different mothers in Kashmir, India


Abstract

The social lives of brown bears (Ursus arctos) are still largely a mystery, partly because of the difficulty in studying the topic. Here we report on the interactions between 2 Himalayan brown bear family units at a dump site roughly 53 km outside of Srinagar, Kashmir, India. Brown bear cubs from 2 different mothers were observed playing together between 3 September and 16 October 2021, on 13 discrete occasions. These play sessions lasted 20–80 minutes (mean H 24.3 ± 4.59 standard deviation). Each interaction ended with the family units leaving independently. The relationship between the mother bears is not known, though we speculate that they may be related. Although the interactions do not constitute adoption, they do demonstrate a level of tolerance by mother bears toward cubs to which they did not give birth.


www.researchgate.net/publication/376463520_Interactions_between_brown_bear_cubs_of_different_mothers_in_Kashmir_India

[Gorilla king]

Unique Footage of Tien Shan Brown Bears Revealed by Camera Traps in Kazakhstan (Video)





astanatimes.com/2024/10/unique-footage-of-tien-shan-brown-bears-revealed-by-camera-traps-in-kazakhstan-video/