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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 1, 2022 15:51:40 GMT -5
Yes, 5.4% of 91 is 4.91. That's negligible. And that's the largest percentage for browns on that chart which doesn't even prove predation in all cases.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 1, 2022 16:01:03 GMT -5
Yes, 5.4% of 91 is 4.91. That's negligible. And that's the largest percentage for browns on that chart which doesn't even prove predation in all cases. Yep, that’s 5 brown bears found in tiger excreta, now ask yourself, is this impressive for 8 years?
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 1, 2022 16:25:51 GMT -5
Yes, 5.4% of 91 is 4.91. That's negligible. And that's the largest percentage for browns on that chart which doesn't even prove predation in all cases. Yep, that’s 5 brown bears found in tiger excreta, now ask yourself, is this impressive for 8 years? EVEN IF those 5 brown bears were killed by tigers....that is negligible. Plus, we already know they were all smaller than the tigers. No thanks, am only taking the other method into consideration for predation (according to tiger's prey analyzed).
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Post by Jiren on Feb 2, 2022 5:40:59 GMT -5
All living things value life and try to save it. There are many ways to protect yourself from predators - hide, run away, using camouflage coloring, hide, frighten a predator with a rapid increase in your body, a pungent smell, and finally, protect yourself by force. There is a known case of a fight between a bear and a tiger in the Far East. The forces of these animals are approximately equal, but the bear became the winner - only the head was found from the tiger. www.kp.ru/daily/24316.3/508803/
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 2, 2022 14:27:45 GMT -5
VSEVOLOD SYSOEV:
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Feb 3, 2022 0:28:18 GMT -5
Reply 263. All living things that value life: all wild animals. The only animals that don’t value life seem to be fighting dogs and roosters which fight each other to death.
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 9, 2022 12:49:07 GMT -5
CREDITED TO VENOM LORD.
Ok so this is really awesome, "you know who" posted this at the World of Animals forum:
Tiger hunts down, attacks and mauls a huge brown bear
A Russian hunter/biologist trailed a tiger that was hunting down a huge brown bear:
At one point he turned aside and describing a semicircle obviously headed to intercept the bear. Tigers always do that...
There was blood on the snow, and tufts of the bear's coat all over the place:
I couldn't find the rest of the account, so I don't know if the bear was killed or not, but it shows that a tiger intentionally hunted down, attacked and badly mauled a huge Brown bear. There was signs of the bears blood and fur all over the place but no signs of the tigers fur. Clearly indicating that the huge bear was the only one that was severely mauled and injured.
A "huge Brown bear" is most definitely referring to a very large MALE bear. Only the males of this species reach huge sizes.
Amur tigers are also well known for hunting 'large' and 'larger' Brown bears, (Confirmed and documented by biologists/experts) which also clearly indicates that large adult male Brown bears are also hunted, killed and eaten. At least on occasion.
(There are no post # in this forum so just scroll down to the 7th post):
theworldofanimals.proboards.com/thread/3105/tiger-predation-on-bears
Well, Mr Venom Lord did.
Funny thing is that he automatically thinks the bear might have been killed, he doesn't even think of the possibility that the bear could have won.
SO LETS READ WHAT COMES AFTER THOSE SCREEN SHOTS:
I WAS SURE I'D FIND A DEAD BEAR, BUT TO MY SURPRISE THE TRACKS OF THE TWO BEASTS PARTED, THE BEAR HEADING FOR A NEARBY HILL AND THE TIGER INTO THE VALLEY. BESIDES, THE TIGER HAD GOT THE WORST OF IT, FOR THE TRACKS SHOWED HE HAD GONE OFF DRAGGING AN INJURED FRONT PAW:
books.google.com/books?id=Fw1HAQAAIAAJ&q=All+preparations+were+finished+long+before+morning+
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 9, 2022 13:00:08 GMT -5
So, the hunter claims "huge brown bear", you know how that goes, we have enough examples to know what "huge" actually is. Besides, we know tigers completely avoid adult male brown bears.
So my conclusion is:
A tiger was following a subadult male brown bear to hunt him, he ambushed him from the back, the ambush partially failed, the bear most likely being slightly injured and all still dislodged, a fight happened, and the tiger got the worst of it.
The tiger lost to a subadult male brown bear.
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 10, 2022 7:24:50 GMT -5
/\ That tiger fans own accounts fucks himself.
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 10, 2022 7:34:07 GMT -5
/\ That tiger fans own accounts fucks himself. Yeah basically. That was probably the best debunk i have ever seen. The account went from a tiger following a "huge brown bear" and possibly hurting him to the tiger losing and getting a front paw injured, LMFAO.
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 14, 2022 0:13:45 GMT -5
Страхи человеческие легко можно понять. Научная экспедиция, работавшая на Дальнем Востоке, изучая повадки уссурийского тигра, а потом заехавшая в Мариинск, утверждала, что бурый медведь легко может справиться с тигром. А сам Виктор Кирпичников вспоминал про трагический случай, который произошел на его глазах с одним из местных охотников, который перешел в тайге дорогу бурому медведю. Хозяин тайги его несколько раз похлопал лапами, а потом останки того человека ссыпали в мешок. Сложить кости было невозможно, от них порошок осталсяHuman fears are easy to understand. A scientific expedition that worked in the Far East, studying the habits of the Ussuri tiger, and then drove to Mariinsk, claimed that a brown bear could easily cope with a tiger. And Viktor Kirpichnikov himself recalled a tragic incident that happened before his eyes with one of the local hunters who crossed the path of a brown bear in the taiga. The owner of the taiga patted him several times with his paws, and then the remains of that person were poured into a bag. It was impossible to fold the bones, the powder remained from them.www.google.com/amp/s/kuzbass.aif.ru/amp/archive/1784063
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 14, 2022 6:56:09 GMT -5
What is the source or link of it?
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Post by arctozilla on Feb 14, 2022 7:03:53 GMT -5
/\ it's North American Predators.
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Post by Montezuma on Feb 14, 2022 8:10:45 GMT -5
/\ it's North American Predators. Can you show me the page? Because i think its another source. The mid lines are not from that book as far as i think.
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 14, 2022 9:13:45 GMT -5
/\ it's North American Predators. Can you show me the page? Because i think its another source. The mid lines are not from that book as far as i think. I think it might be another version of the book (maybe), because the page is very similar, some lines are the same. See here:
Reply #20:
beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/31/thread
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 15, 2022 11:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by Gorilla king on Feb 15, 2022 11:55:45 GMT -5
Reply #275, most likely an adult female brown shatun bear that killed a larger than her subadult male brown bear in his den.
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Post by Montezuma on Mar 25, 2022 18:36:15 GMT -5
I think that we have not noticed this thing that in this opinion favouring bear over tiger, beargorillarealm.proboards.com/post/2944/threadWe did'nt thought that which bear. I think that its a Sun bear because the book is about Malaysia and its category is Federated Malay States. And we all know that the only sun bear is the native bear in malaysia. So i think they are favouring a Sun bear over a Malaysian tiger. What do you guys think?
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Post by Gorilla king on Mar 25, 2022 19:39:24 GMT -5
Could be but not very likely. I think they are just talking about bears and tigers in general.
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Post by oldcyansilverback on Mar 26, 2022 1:38:31 GMT -5
Reply 277. That article is from Malaysia since it is called the ‘Folklore of the Malays’. Some might call it a story but it might be based on actual eyewitness which created that story. Sun bears live in Borneo and other parts of South East Asia too not just in Malaysia.
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